Razib Khan has a great post up on Armstrong's death which I'm just goint to repost in its entirety after directing you to him:
"It has been 40 years since he last human being set foot on the moon. I was not alive when this occurred. The Whig views history as a progression. When we recall the past we remember, perhaps pity, a less developed age.
Overall I disagree with declinists who simplistically portray our age
as one of silver, that perhaps we live in the modern Western equivalent
of late antique Rome. Certainly there is greatness all around us. And
one can argue that the “space race” was driven not by ennobling
sentiments, but rather the raw competition between the United States and
Soviet Union. Be as that may be, could we soon look back to the 1960s as the ultimate high point in the spirit of the West?
Perhaps we do live in a fallen age in a sense, unable to rouse
ourselves and recapture past glories, and even surpass them. The
Hellenistic Greeks were a civilized people, who were more advanced than
their Classical predecessors in particular details of science and
engineering. Yet most scholars would suggest that there was
something derivative and unoriginal when compared to the ferment of
Athens’ golden century.
I wonder. Did Neil Armstrong ever consider when he set foot on the
moon that humanity would not return for the last four decades of his
life?"
It's a sobering thought, and certainly one that every space enthusiast has flirted with on some level. But Razib expands the fear to civilizational proportions. However, I would add a couple points of optimism. I think we are sort of back on the right
track. Efforts on the space station could probably have been better
spent on Mars, and we really don't need
to hop around the moon anymore (although with new evidence on the water
content perhaps that's not fair). What we need it people on Mars, and
the cooperation with the private sector and the continuous (and
improving) robotic presence on Mars is a good place to start. I'm not a
Whig history type, but I do believe in progress. I guess that makes me a
Whig historian without the hagiography and teleology? Or maybe a short-run anti-Whig and a long-run Whig? Anyway, let's
just say I'm optimistic and we need to keep working at it.
I think part of the reason for my optimism is the fact that I work on economics, and the awe-inspiring relentlessness of economic growth in a market society. As Robert Lucas said "once you start thinking about economic growth, it's hard to think about anything else." It's probably the one thing that could push me to dive back into a Whig history attitude. I think we will fulfill the dreams that people had, but it's a question of timing. Will we have a permanent presence on Mars in 20 years or 100? Will we have a human settlement in 100 or 500? That I don't know. And there's always a chance of a catastrophe that will send us into the Dark Ages. I think nuclear war is off the table for the most part (although use of nuclear weapons by terrorists certainly isn't). Climate change is the obvious candidate. Needless to say in the face of a catastrophe, commitment of resources to progress will be more difficult.
But I think we should be optimistic. There are a lot of places where Whiggism clearly doesn't apply, but in science, technology, and the economy it is very, very hard not to be optimistic.
Proposition 13 in California in 1978 was when the right in the United States decided they would rather get fat on the seed corn than leave anything for their children and grandchildren.
ReplyDeleteSure. It's important to be on the right track. It's just a matter of timing.
ReplyDeleteBeen saying that myself for 40 years now.
Daniel, you really are delusional, for there is no reason to be optimistic about any aspect of life in the United States.
ReplyDeleteWe have a government which events have finally exposed as totally and fundamentally flawed in structure. We have an economic system that as Noah pointed out only a few weeks ago has been fundamentally broken since the 1970s.
And, invincible ignorance advances every day.
Did you ever stop and ask yourself, What are the plans of the Tea Party/Cult Religious Right GOP for science? Hint: They plan on cutting the taxes of the .1% and closing up shop.
> As Robert Lucas said "once you start thinking about economic growth, it's hard to think about anything else."
ReplyDeleteThis is exactly why I've never been particularly interested in the space race. Getting to the moon was a great achievement certainly, but there have been many other great achievements. It's not particularly special.
> The Hellenistic Greeks were a civilized people, who were more advanced
> than their Classical predecessors in particular details of science and
> engineering. Yet most scholars would suggest that there was something
> derivative and unoriginal when compared to the ferment of Athens’
> golden century.
This is more a reason why it's important to take what "scholars" think with a pinch of salt. Historians like it when interesting things happen, they don't care about what things are like for anyone around during the era they study.
I largely agree Daniel and recommend to you, if you haven't read him, Matt Ridley. (Reading Ridley is like listening to my own thoughts repeated back to me sometimes).
ReplyDeleteWhiggism is sometimes a reasonable conclusion from the evidence.
Of course you get pushback from the perfectionist libertarian types for this attitude. FDR has destroyed us all and Obomney want to dance on the grave ...