tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post757214219271585288..comments2024-03-27T03:00:27.024-04:00Comments on Facts & other stubborn things: Bob Murphy? Overreacting to the fact that people out there disagree with him? Never!Evanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12259004160963531720noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post-59885837441903261732013-05-16T13:26:51.706-04:002013-05-16T13:26:51.706-04:00I agree that Bob clearly likes engaging with Danie...I agree that Bob clearly likes engaging with Daniel, in this case the difference that make a difference is Corey (and his piece on Nietzche).Wonks Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post-18553467801110515732013-05-16T11:36:04.120-04:002013-05-16T11:36:04.120-04:00Yep and I get that too. I hope everybody gets that...Yep and I get that too. I hope everybody gets that the over-the-topness of this post is just poking you. Obviously I continue to talk with you after all!<br /><br />See would characterize it as an "I'm not saying it's a direct influence of Nietzsche but there is a broader continuity" essay. Of course if you say "Robin said it's a direct influence" people will say he didn't in that case. That's not a "trap" at all.<br /><br />Maybe this will make the point clearer: for it to be a trap people will have had to concede your point, and that's the whole point - they don't! And if you're wrong in characterizing the essay you're obviously wrong about it being some kind of devious trap.<br /><br />re: <i>"You wouldn't intentionally make me look worse to your readers than I really was."</i><br /><br />The title was I hope a clear poke at the ribs... but I quoted you verbatim precisely so that I wouldn't be misrepresenting the claim.Daniel Kuehnhttp://www.factsandotherstubbornthings.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post-72287134491032000682013-05-16T11:29:34.782-04:002013-05-16T11:29:34.782-04:00For what it's worth, Daniel, people often ask ...For what it's worth, Daniel, people often ask me why I keep engaging with you. For example, in this post you make it sound like I have a problem, in general, with people disagreeing with me, when obviously the "trap" to which I referred was that guy's I'm-not-saying-it's-Nietzche-but-it's-Nietzche post on the Austrians.<br /><br />But I know better. You wouldn't intentionally make me look worse to your readers than I really was.Bob Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04001108408649311528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post-25456697270927776632013-05-16T07:24:47.005-04:002013-05-16T07:24:47.005-04:00I would put it differently. Robin is clearly not m...I would put it differently. Robin is clearly not making a strong claim about influence. By calling it "nebulous" you seem to agree. Bob is frustrated that if you try to say he's making a strong claim any fair person will say "but he's not making a strong claim".<br /><br />As you say - this is not a game worth playing.<br /><br />If you think it's "nebulous" then don't attribute a non-nebulous claim to Robin and you're in the clear. What's so hard about that? Bob seems to think that's very hard.<br /><br />(I wouldn't personally use the word "nebulous" to describe it, but we seem to be hitting on a similar theme).Daniel Kuehnhttp://www.factsandotherstubbornthings.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post-72609057980685888382013-05-16T06:38:40.097-04:002013-05-16T06:38:40.097-04:00The trap he's talking about is Robin's lau...The trap he's talking about is Robin's laughably nebulous description of the relationship between Nietzsche and Hayek which he's alleging exists. It creates a situation where you can only ever guess at what it is he's saying and he can always reply "Guess again". That's not a game worth playing.teqzillahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10644136551384385125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post-17251069097355459482013-05-15T20:42:07.928-04:002013-05-15T20:42:07.928-04:00So... why are you engaging with this libertarian?So... why are you engaging with this libertarian?John Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post-44360853318805147912013-05-15T18:37:36.789-04:002013-05-15T18:37:36.789-04:00Jonathan - There is a middle ground between engagi...Jonathan - There is a middle ground between engaging only with those who agree with you and engaging with everyone who disagrees with you. Non-libertarians are simply wasting their time when they try to engage with libertarians. That time would be better spent seeking out and engaging with other people they disagree with. Absalonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131268683451462949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post-73313176380674054842013-05-15T18:32:38.830-04:002013-05-15T18:32:38.830-04:00Engaging with anyone who disagrees with you is goi...Engaging with anyone who disagrees with you is going to be a difficult experience, but it's better than engaging only those who agree with you, even if in the latter case you don't get cycles of frustration.Jonathan Finegoldhttp://www.economicthought.net/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post-24688774359275086592013-05-15T17:30:03.183-04:002013-05-15T17:30:03.183-04:00Daniel
It seems to me that I have warned you abou...Daniel<br /><br />It seems to me that I have warned you about the uselessness of engaging with the libertarians. It looks like Bob Murphy agrees that attempts at engagement between libertarians and non-libertarians are a waste of everyone's time. Absalonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131268683451462949noreply@blogger.com