tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post6799762037391895928..comments2024-03-18T06:41:03.841-04:00Comments on Facts & other stubborn things: Talking outside your discipline FAILEvanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12259004160963531720noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post-57672272990141191372013-06-18T16:24:20.522-04:002013-06-18T16:24:20.522-04:00Daniel Kuehn,
~None of that translates to the cla...Daniel Kuehn,<br /><br />~None of that translates to the claims made.~<br /><br />All Richman is doing IMO is condensing Berger's own sentiments. Of course you could ask Berger himself, he has a blog and all that. Whatever the case certainly Richman is drawing heavily on Berger's comments about the field, so his comments aren't nearly as "out there" as you describe them as being. <br /><br />The Libertarian Standard Bearerhttp://www.thestandardisthestandard.isthestandard.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post-43287199162990441642013-06-18T10:14:04.730-04:002013-06-18T10:14:04.730-04:00If there were a Nobel prize in sociology there is ...If there were a Nobel prize in sociology there is absolutely no doubt at all Peter Berger would have one. He's not some kind of shunned figure. It's probably a combination of some scholars liking to cultivate maverick self-images and I wouldn't be surprised at all if some Marxians took issue with his pro-market stance and it stuck with him. None of that translates to the claims made.Daniel Kuehnhttp://www.factsandotherstubbornthings.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post-36672801217056181282013-06-18T10:12:21.333-04:002013-06-18T10:12:21.333-04:00Peter Berger is a major sociologist that is widely...Peter Berger is a major sociologist that is widely cited.<br /><br />A lot of scholars like to cultivate an outsider persona. You see this in economics among celebrated Nobel laureates too.<br /><br />The source of the comment is that I'm decently familiar with the literature and both contentions are wrong.Daniel Kuehnhttp://www.factsandotherstubbornthings.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post-71340724634251374482013-06-18T10:09:01.735-04:002013-06-18T10:09:01.735-04:00Well, clearly Sheldon Richman was riffing off some...Well, clearly Sheldon Richman was riffing off something Peter L. Berger already noted (quite famously at this point) about his discipline (or former discipline), so I'm not quite sure what your source of complaint is here.The Libertarian Standard Bearerhttp://www.thestandardisthestandard.isthestandard.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post-32996306999562630052013-06-17T22:14:56.650-04:002013-06-17T22:14:56.650-04:00I wouldn't think so, although I've got as ...I wouldn't think so, although I've got as many degrees in sociology as I have in economics and I would probably call myself an economist, I work regularly with a sociologist, and I read the stuff. But even granted that I think my title works fine. If I were referring to myself with a similar title it would just be "Talking outside your discipline win"!<br /><br />I'm not a physicist either (and I have quite a bit fewer degrees in physics than in economics or sociology) but if someone heard something once about string theory and told me that physics was all about how the matter is made up of rubber bands and yarn I'd feel pretty comfortable attaching the "fail" meme to that one too.Daniel Kuehnhttp://www.factsandotherstubbornthings.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post-52078895308378744622013-06-17T21:18:57.140-04:002013-06-17T21:18:57.140-04:00You're not a sociologist right Daniel? So shou...You're not a sociologist right Daniel? So shouldn't this post be titled, "I disagree strongly with Sheldon Richman"?Bob Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04001108408649311528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post-39275212287241114012013-06-17T19:47:52.027-04:002013-06-17T19:47:52.027-04:00Peter L. Berger was making similar comments as ear...Peter L. Berger was making similar comments as early as 1992: http://www.cooperativeindividualism.org/berger-peter_sociology-a-disinvitation-1992.htmlThe Libertarian Standard Bearerhttp://www.thestandardisthestandard.isthestandard.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post-75130284475018152322013-06-17T19:43:22.869-04:002013-06-17T19:43:22.869-04:00Cato filed a brief in favor of silence:
~For sev...Cato filed a brief in favor of silence: <br /><br />~For several reasons, the Cato amicus brief argues that prosecutors should not be able to comment on a citizen’s silence at trial. First, under our adversarial system, the government must investigate its own case, find its own witnesses, and prove its own facts. That means citizens can (in the absence of a subpoena) choose to cooperate with police fully, partly, or not at all. Second, silence is not evidence of guilt. Thus, there is no valid reason to support the government’s bid for admissibility (at least in the prosecution’s case-in-chief). Third, a contrary ruling would complicate the law and confuse citizens about when they can remain silent in the face of police questioning.~ <br /><br />http://www.cato.org/publications/legal-briefs/salinas-v-texasThe Libertarian Standard Bearerhttp://www.thestandardisthestandard.isthestandard.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post-41899060754742903492013-06-17T19:31:52.402-04:002013-06-17T19:31:52.402-04:00He's clearly riffing on this article: http://w...He's clearly riffing on this article: http://www.firstthings.com/print/article/2007/01/whatever-happened-to-sociology--43<br /><br />Peter L. Berger indeed has a bunch of harsh things to say about the field of Sociology. The Libertarian Standard Bearerhttp://www.thestandardisthestandard.isthestandard.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post-4351574512208526192013-06-17T18:54:01.213-04:002013-06-17T18:54:01.213-04:00The 28712 citations* of Berger/Luckmann "The ...The 28712 citations* of Berger/Luckmann "The social construction of reality" are obviously all self-citations.<br /><br />(*as measured by Google Scholar)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post-1939374301830935922013-06-17T17:58:08.869-04:002013-06-17T17:58:08.869-04:00Panel discussing Boettke's "Living Econom...Panel discussing Boettke's "Living Economics" at Cato - deep in during the Q&A and not during his initial statement. I'll try to track it down for you.<br /><br />That wasn't a paraphrase - he referenced The Borg. That might just be poetic license (hopefully his take on sociology wasn't that simplistic - but I've met many who genuinely think that's the case), but what really stunned me was that he treated Berger as some kind of voice crying out in the wilderness among sociologists.Daniel Kuehnhttp://www.factsandotherstubbornthings.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post-28450396274279099762013-06-17T15:59:29.120-04:002013-06-17T15:59:29.120-04:00Where is this commentary? Where is this commentary? Jonathan Finegoldhttp://www.economicthought.net/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1740670447258719504.post-29049177481179260882013-06-17T15:43:49.615-04:002013-06-17T15:43:49.615-04:00Off topic but lets see if the Libertarians underst...Off topic but lets see if the Libertarians understand that Salinas v. Texas is a bigger threat to the Constitution and civil liberties than PRISM.Absalonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131268683451462949noreply@blogger.com