Part I: Epistemology
Jim: "What is the answer to question Q?"
Joe: "The answer is X"
Jim: "What do you mean by 'the answer'?"
Joe: "Are you an idiot"
Jim: "Bear with me"
Joe: "An answer is just a response to your question that satisfies what it is you wanted to know"
Jim: "So Y and W are an answer to the question Q?"
Joe: "Well no, the implication of the word 'answer' is that it is a valid response - you can justify that it is valid"
Jim: "What do you mean by 'valid'?"
Joe: "Well X is a valid response to question Q because of A, B, and C"
Jim: "No I don't really care why X is a valid answer. That's your business. I'm asking you what 'valid' really is"
Joe: "I don't imagine citing methodological rules of thumb used by my community is going to satisfy you is it?"
Jim: "No."
Joe: "I don't know then"
Jim: "Well you should know!"
Joe: "Why? It doesn't seem like it makes a difference whether I know that or not."
Jim: "__________"
[If someone can give Jim a good answer for Joe, that would be swell]
Part II: Ontology
Joe stormed off after the pregnant pause to go answer a few more questions, but Jim is still preoccupied with question Q (or, more accurately - Jim is preoccupied with Joe's response to the series of queries in Part I. Jim really could care less what the answer to question Q is).
Jim: "So you said that..."
Joe: "NOT YOU AGAIN!!!"
Jim [cornering Joe, fiendishly]: "So you said that 'the answer is X', right? I'm still not sure what you think a valid answer is, but lets not worry about that. Could you explain the rest of that statement to me?"
Joe: "Finally something substantive! Yes, it's very critical that we found out that X is the answer to question Q because of applications in..."
Jim: "Oh no, no - I'm sorry to confuse you. I'm not terribly concerned about X, I mean the rest of the statement"
Joe: "Huh? The rest of the statement? Those are the only two parts of the statement. 'The answer' and 'is X'"
Jim: "Right."
Joe: "Huh?"
Jim: "is"
Joe: "Huh?"
Jim: "What do you mean when you say that X 'is' the answer to question Q?"
Joe: "Are you just fucking with me now?"
Jim: "No this is actually a question that people have spent a lot of time writing about"
Joe: "Ya Nazis..."
Jim: "What was that?"
Joe: "Nevermind. Yes I'm familiar with the broad outlines of the issue. I don't know the answer to that either."
Jim: "Then what grounds do you have for assigning beingness to X? How can you say that X is or that something is X if you don't know what 'is' is?"
Joe: "Well I do know what 'is' is"
Jim: "What is it?"
Joe: "To be"
Jim: "Right - but what is that?"
Joe: "Does it really matter?"
Jim: "It matters tremendously!"
Joe: "Aside from being a form of entertainment and mental pilates, why does answering that question in a way that will make you go away matter? What value does that question have?"
Jim: "_______"
Joe: "And furthermore, how can we even answer a question like that? It seems to me we only have access to our own observations and the sort of word games that our brain is able to apply to those observations. We know neither can be completely trusted. So how do you expect to get a handle on some kind of ultimate nature of reality and being when you are so poorly equipped? In other words: can anyone really answer your question?"
Jim: "_______"
[Again, if you can fill in the blanks my hat is off to you]
Wednesday, June 27, 2012
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This is pretty great.
ReplyDeletePhilosophy does not "matter" in any way that, say, a new farming technique matters. Those whom it does not interest are free to ignore it, in a way they are not free to ignore, say, eating, or dressing warmly, or obeying the law.
ReplyDeleteWhat is odd, though, is that the people who are usually the loudest about how philosophy does not matter will not stop forwarding philosophical opinions, which, because they think philosophy is silly and they are unwilling to think through philosophical issues, usually are unsurprisingly not that well thought out.
Then again, someone who thinks some of these questions do matter is predisposed to think that the one who thinks these questions don't matter doesn't have a correct view of things, and thus may not be the most objective judge of the quality of the arguments put forward.
DeleteI think it's also important to distinguish between people who think certain questions are equivalent to asking how many angels dance on the head of a pin and people who think that philosophy doesn't matter. These are two very different propositions, probably made by two very different types of people.
Also - several philosophical traditions converge on roughly the same flavor of answer to these sorts of questions.
DeleteSo the question who is "well thought out" is probably going to be a contested one (not by me, of course - I'm not qualified to seriously weigh in - much less contest anyone else).
"I think it's also important to distinguish between people who think certain questions are equivalent to asking how many angels dance on the head of a pin..."
DeleteBy the way, the "angels on a pin" problem is perfectly sensible. Angels were held to be non-material beings, so could an infinite number of them fit in the same space? Did it even make sense to say they were somewhere? If the idea of angels seems ridiculous to you, realize that the exact same thing applies to, say, mathematical ideas, or beauty, or justice.
Does the Pythagorean theorem exist only in the heads of those who know it, or does it have some other sort of existence? If some other, what sort?
And again, all I am saying is, "If you don't like such questions, fine. But do let those of us who do have our fun! And please don't combine 'That's too a stupid question to think about' with the insistence 'Obviously the answer is X.'"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktbhw0v186Q
ReplyDeleteOK, I'll let this one stand. That's a pretty incredible use of youtube.
DeleteThis is cooler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2ZlhM3BDLk&feature=related
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